La película que hoy conservamos gracias a la
cinefilia erótica de Il Duce Benito Mussolini
EKSTASE
cinefilia erótica de Il Duce Benito Mussolini
EKSTASE
Dirigida por
Gustav Machatý
Producida por
Frantisek Horký, Moritz Grunhut y Otto Sonnenfeld
Guión de
Gustav Machatý y Frantisek Horký, sobre un libro de Robert Horky
Fotografía de
Hans Androschin, Gerhard Huttula y Jan Stallich
Música de
Giuseppe Becce
Reparto
Hedy Lamarr...Eva Hermann
Aribert Mog...Adam
Zvonimir Rogoz...Emile
Gustav Machatý
Producida por
Frantisek Horký, Moritz Grunhut y Otto Sonnenfeld
Guión de
Gustav Machatý y Frantisek Horký, sobre un libro de Robert Horky
Fotografía de
Hans Androschin, Gerhard Huttula y Jan Stallich
Música de
Giuseppe Becce
Reparto
Hedy Lamarr...Eva Hermann
Aribert Mog...Adam
Zvonimir Rogoz...Emile
Sinopsis argumental
Tras casarse con su marido, un viejo caballero, Eva (Hedy Lamarr) descubre que éste está obsesionado con el orden y la tranquilidad, dejando poco tiempo a la pasión y el romanticismo que ella esperaba. Desanimada, abandonará a su marido y regresará con su padre. Un día, mientras se baña en el lago conoce a un joven del que se enamora.
Un detallado análisis del film
Como estamos en un foro de cinéfilos y un buen porcentaje de ellos deben conocer sobradamente esta película, les sugiero que antes de volverla a ver oigan este comentario del Licenciado en Ciencias de la Imagen Oti Rodríguez Marchante, a quien muchos consideran en España como el sucesor del gran crítico Alfonso Sánchez.
[BBvideo425,350]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIaiRrepQLo[/BBvideo]
Sobre esta versión
Como es bien sabido la versión original de esta película desapareció, cuando la actriz se casó con el magnate Fritz Mandl, quien compró todas las copias y el negativo, para impedir la difusión de las escenas en las que su pareja aparecía desnuda y supuestamente llegaba al orgasmo en una escena de amor. Algún coleccionista, como el Duce Benito Mussolini se guardaron la suya y de esas copias "piratas" se exhibió en 1950 una versión parcialmente censurada con una duración de 82 minutos y una buena calidad de imagen. En el 2001 se restauró una versión de mayor duración y peor imagen, que es la que hoy lanzo y cuyas diferencias con la anterior un sabio de KG-cuyo nombre he olvidado- las explica aquí:
[spoiler]This discussion ended without anyone really establishing what the difference between both versions is. Well the information is carefully hidden on the Edition Filmmuseum disc, but in the DVD-ROM area there's a comparison with the version that premiered in the Third Reich (why exactly with this version?) and just in the last sentence we get to know that the copy used for the DVD was the 1950 release version, not the 2001 Filmarchiv restoration because of the 1950 version being the only one with good picture quality. Strangely this short essay is written by the same Armin Loacker who edited the 2001 resto and the book accompanying it where they decided upon restoring the 1933 version as far as possible.
What I absolutely don't understand is why they didn't take the 1950 copy with the correct aspect ratio/better quality and inserted the pieces from the more complete 2001 version. The differences are as following:
The credits of the 1950 version carry the actors, director and so on while the 2001 resto only has the title Ekstase popping up.
At 9:58 (2001 resto)/9:34 (1950 version, the time differences are also caused by PAL speedup) there's an insert which has been replaced with a slightly changed text. "Wir gratulieren mit Ausrufungszeichen" becomes "Herzlichste Glückwünsche zum Hochzeitstage".
At 24:27 begins the dictation of a divorce letter in the 2001 resto and it goes on until 25:47, the 1950 version cuts it into a 7 second intro at 23:30.
At 37:50 the 2001 resto has an extended montage sequence of nature images lasting until 38:30, in the 1950 version you have a straight cut at 35:13.
At 52:28 the horse sequence goes in the 2001 resto on until the infamous mating shot and the owner enjoying his cigar at 53:48, the 1950 version inserts only a shot of the horse at 48:37, otherwise the sequence ends there after the name of the mare is written into the book.
At 55:08 the ex-husband looks sadly in his car being surrounded by children while the ingenieur changes clothes until 55:20, the 1950 version again makes a straight cut and dims the children's voices.
The almost fatal drive in the car goes on fluently from 58:10 until 58:53 in the 2001 resto though you can see that the material was cut in from another copy. In the 1950 version there's a brutal jump cut from the same angle at 52:42 omitting the restored seconds.
At 1:16:41 again an insert is changed from "Ihr Sohn verunglückt sofort kommen" in the 2001 resto to "Euer Sohn infolge Herzschlags plötzlich verstorben" in the 1950 version.
At 1:22:02 you see in the working symphony in the 2001 resto wood with water running over it, while the 1950 version shows the ingenieur.
At 1:22:57 there's a song in the 2001 resto running up 1:24:29 and slightly beyond. In the 1950 version there's a cut at 1:15:55 omitting this part and removing the song from the soundtrack (until 1:16:29) when the scene continues.
At 1:25:07 the shot from below in the water barrell and the following sawing shots are removed until 1:25:21, while 1:16:29 the 1950 version reinserts for the next 10 seconds shots cut earlier, you find them at 1:23:33 in the 2001 resto.
Then at 1:18:18 when the 2001 version has ended at 1:27:07 (there are some modern credits which take up the rest of the running time) the 1950 version has a happy ending added which was clearly shot after the war (aspect ratio changes to 1:37) and shows the lovers reunited as reflection in a pond.
I don't know who made the decisions not to insert the missing parts and why but it's an even bigger mystery why the 1950 epilogue was kept in the Edition Filmmuseum disc. Anyway keep your discs and don't sell them, both have their strengths and maybe someone will be able to cut both discs together in a way that better represents the film than they do at the moment.[/spoiler]
What I absolutely don't understand is why they didn't take the 1950 copy with the correct aspect ratio/better quality and inserted the pieces from the more complete 2001 version. The differences are as following:
The credits of the 1950 version carry the actors, director and so on while the 2001 resto only has the title Ekstase popping up.
At 9:58 (2001 resto)/9:34 (1950 version, the time differences are also caused by PAL speedup) there's an insert which has been replaced with a slightly changed text. "Wir gratulieren mit Ausrufungszeichen" becomes "Herzlichste Glückwünsche zum Hochzeitstage".
At 24:27 begins the dictation of a divorce letter in the 2001 resto and it goes on until 25:47, the 1950 version cuts it into a 7 second intro at 23:30.
At 37:50 the 2001 resto has an extended montage sequence of nature images lasting until 38:30, in the 1950 version you have a straight cut at 35:13.
At 52:28 the horse sequence goes in the 2001 resto on until the infamous mating shot and the owner enjoying his cigar at 53:48, the 1950 version inserts only a shot of the horse at 48:37, otherwise the sequence ends there after the name of the mare is written into the book.
At 55:08 the ex-husband looks sadly in his car being surrounded by children while the ingenieur changes clothes until 55:20, the 1950 version again makes a straight cut and dims the children's voices.
The almost fatal drive in the car goes on fluently from 58:10 until 58:53 in the 2001 resto though you can see that the material was cut in from another copy. In the 1950 version there's a brutal jump cut from the same angle at 52:42 omitting the restored seconds.
At 1:16:41 again an insert is changed from "Ihr Sohn verunglückt sofort kommen" in the 2001 resto to "Euer Sohn infolge Herzschlags plötzlich verstorben" in the 1950 version.
At 1:22:02 you see in the working symphony in the 2001 resto wood with water running over it, while the 1950 version shows the ingenieur.
At 1:22:57 there's a song in the 2001 resto running up 1:24:29 and slightly beyond. In the 1950 version there's a cut at 1:15:55 omitting this part and removing the song from the soundtrack (until 1:16:29) when the scene continues.
At 1:25:07 the shot from below in the water barrell and the following sawing shots are removed until 1:25:21, while 1:16:29 the 1950 version reinserts for the next 10 seconds shots cut earlier, you find them at 1:23:33 in the 2001 resto.
Then at 1:18:18 when the 2001 version has ended at 1:27:07 (there are some modern credits which take up the rest of the running time) the 1950 version has a happy ending added which was clearly shot after the war (aspect ratio changes to 1:37) and shows the lovers reunited as reflection in a pond.
I don't know who made the decisions not to insert the missing parts and why but it's an even bigger mystery why the 1950 epilogue was kept in the Edition Filmmuseum disc. Anyway keep your discs and don't sell them, both have their strengths and maybe someone will be able to cut both discs together in a way that better represents the film than they do at the moment.[/spoiler]
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General
Nombre : Ekstase (1933).Restored.Spa and Eng Subt.CFC-VTG.mkv
Formato : Matroska
Formato de la versión : Version 4 / Version 2
Tamaño de archivo : 1,31 GiB
Duración : 1 h 28 min
Tasa de bits general : 2 112 kb/s
Fecha de codificación : UTC 2017-11-10 07:50:30
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Duración : 1 h 28 min
Tasa de bits : 1 950 kb/s
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Audio
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Menú
00:00:00.000 : :Chapter 1
00:10:10.026 : :Chapter 2
00:14:31.104 : :Chapter 3
00:24:27.716 : :Chapter 4
00:38:48.092 : :Chapter 5
00:50:13.727 : :Chapter 6
01:05:47.110 : :Chapter 7
01:20:21.216 : :Chapter 8
01:27:22.437 : :Chapter 9
A manera de trailer
Una de las secuencias más controvertidas de la película
[BBvideo425,350]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R_sVeezhpY[/BBvideo]
E-LINK
Archivo matroska con subtítulos en inglés y español
Ekstase (1933).Restored.Spa and Eng Subt.CFC-VTG.mkv [1.31 Gb] 
El enlace por Torrent
Enlace magnet
Mis subtítulos en español
https://www.subdivx.com/X6XNTE4NjI3X-ekstase-1933.html
Una de las secuencias más controvertidas de la película
[BBvideo425,350]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R_sVeezhpY[/BBvideo]
E-LINK
Archivo matroska con subtítulos en inglés y español
Ekstase (1933).Restored.Spa and Eng Subt.CFC-VTG.mkv [1.31 Gb] El enlace por Torrent
Enlace magnetMis subtítulos en español
https://www.subdivx.com/X6XNTE4NjI3X-ekstase-1933.html
